Episode 57: Experimenting with Comics with Clifford Johnson and Dan Goldman

We’ve got another one in store for you How Do You Like it So Far? team!  This week we have another episode in our series about comics with Henry at the helm (Colin is unfortunately away in Spain this week).  We have Clifford Johnson, a Professor in the Physics and Astronomy Department at USC and author of The Dialogues, a non-fiction science book for non-experts with a twist — it’s written like a graphic novel!  We also have Dan Goldman, a writer, an artist, producer and founder and narrative lead of Kinjin Story Lab, whose work spans from graphic novels, TV and video games.  Johnson and Goldman discuss this “origin” stories of how they became comic book fans and how it influenced their current work.  Both Johnson and Goldman have visions of the use of comics for social change. Johnson created his work in order to model conversations that were happening around him about the scientific method to normalize science in the general culture.  Goldman, on the other hand, created works of political fiction or transmedia storytelling while using digital platforms to promote messaging. Johnson and Goldman discuss how storytelling is fundamentally at the heart of comics and engages people.  They posit that comics provides an alternate medium for people to disseminate information and take them to new levels with various ideas. Listen in as Johnson and Goldman discuss their work and the differences between digital and traditional publishing.  Looking for some comic book recommendations? Check out our notes section below for some recommendations from our guests and Henry.

Here are some of the references from this episode, for those who want to dig a little deeper:

Comics and graphic novels mentioned in this podcast:
Chasing Echoes
Ezra Claytan DanielsUpgrade Soul and Bottom Feeders with Ben Passmore
Kim Deitch’s Reincarnation Stories 
Damian Duffy – The Parable of the Sower
The Dialogues
Eightball
Everyman: Be the People 
Love and Rockets
Priya Shakti
Shooting War
Sonny Liew’s The Art of Charlie Chan Hock Chye
Dan’s IG native comic series with Unitas
Jillian and Mariko Tamaki – This One Summer

Johnson’s Blog

Johnson’s research on black holes

Digital publishing in comics

ScreenDiver – community run out of the Netherlands (digital comics) 

The Two Popes on Netflix

Stu Campbell

John Jennings

Joelle Jones

David Mazzucchelli

Joe Sacco

Will Eisner and Sequential Art

Street murals in India – Priya Shakti

Bill Watterson – comics moving backwards

Scott McCloud’s Creator’s Bill of Rights

Our Scott McCloud episode

Share your thoughts via Twitter with Henry and Colin and also through email at annlab@usc.edu!

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